Greetings! Despite being inundated with work projects for most of the year, I have been working in bits and pieces on a new song to support my forthcoming fictional thriller/horror novel about two enchantresses. The song is currently at the unpolished-demo stage and is not ready for Soundcloud or a music video on YouTube yet. Hopefully, by the end of the month I will have produced a much better demo suitable to send off for a music video and posting to Soundcloud, time-permitting. :D
The vocals are the original first-take and too loud in the mix. I will re-record new vocals and mix those better for the final demo soon. The outro will have some changes including additional ad-libs and more musical variety, too.
The song is about a mortal man who falls under the spell of a beautiful woman, Hedra, who is a dark enchantress. He believes he is in love with her because she owns and controls his mind. :o And, wow, is he ever in love with her! :D
https://app.box.com/s/70o23fjuapng51p7kwrzc3qil6dr0co7
Does a Sorceress Make Love?
Words and Music: Joseph Spain
Lead vocals: Joseph Spain
Backing vocals: Joseph Spain and Nicole Patterson* (*Nicole is a modeled voice from Audimee, using my voice as input)
Produced by: Joseph Spain
© 2025 Joseph Spain
song from the forthcoming fictional horror/thriller novel "Omega's Dark: The Transference"
--Verse 1
There's somethin' about you I can't place it
In the dark you're the lover I need
There's somethin' deep in your eyes
In the moonlight
You're the spirit who makes time freeze
--Pre-chorus 1
There's somethin' I must know
To live or die
And these questions
Are all that burn inside
--Chorus
Do you know when I think of you
And all the wonders that you do
Do you know what it means to want someone
The way that I want you
--Release
What is your heart made of [subsequently: 'What are you thinkin' of' and 'What do I suffer for']
Does a sorceress make love
Do you know how much I worship you, love
--Verse 2
I see what you are and I can take it
You're my love, I'm the light on your sea
You own every part of me
You can claim it
With no struggle I'll go where you lead
--Pre-chorus 2
There's somethin' you must know
I live and die
You're the air I breathe
You're all that burns inside
(repeat chorus; then to bridge)
--Bridge
Until all angels turn to dust
You are burned into my heart
And I'll be yours through dark and day
Till the end of time
When all the shadows fall
(repeat chorus; then to outro)
--Outro
(does a sorceress make love)
In the dark of night
(in the way that I love you)
In the sun and light
(does a sorceress make love)
In the world of life
(in the way that I love you)
You're like paradise
(does a sorceress make love)
As I've said before your production sound isn't a million miles away from some of the stuff I do - though your voice is way better than me. Im intrigued by the high concept of your project too - very ambitious - I can only think in terms of self contained 4 minutes pop songs so a tie in novel seems like a lot of thought is going into your creativity. Keep going!
@Dan -- Many thanks for the kind words and encouragement. Much appreciated! Hopefully my final demo for the track will be ready soon. :D
Cheers,
Joseph
Oh ya got watch them witches lol . Sounds good man producing it yourself .
Quote from: Elvis Nash on Oct 06, 2025, 02:52 PMOh ya got watch them witches lol . Sounds good man producing it yourself .
Thanks, man! Yeah, I really like this song, and I definitely want to record it in a studio with a professional sound engineer who can balance and mix everything correctly, plus some studio musicians and a great female vocalist to sing with. Thanks for listening. :D
Quote from: icystorm on Oct 06, 2025, 10:28 PMQuote from: Elvis Nash on Oct 06, 2025, 02:52 PMOh ya got watch them witches lol . Sounds good man producing it yourself .
Thanks, man! Yeah, I really like this song, and I definitely want to record it in a studio with a professional sound engineer who can balance and mix everything correctly, plus some studio musicians and a great female vocalist to sing with. Thanks for listening. :D
Session players, studios, producers, and engineers are a bit pricey , But its a good goal to have
@Elvis Nash – Thanks Elvis! I have the money for it, but I need to find the time and the right people. It's a goal to have my songs professionally mixed and produced before I join that big recording studio in the sky someday. 🤣😂 Beyond the personal vanity of that goal, I have no illusions about making it big. But, I do hope that someone of note would hear one of my songs, record it, and release it. If not, it's no big deal. All of my bucket list items were already checked off numerous times. I feel blessed. :D
You have a very good workflow of writing and recording. Your songs all sound very polished. Good work, man!
Cheers,
Joseph
Quote from: icystorm on Oct 12, 2025, 09:08 PM@Elvis Nash – Thanks Elvis! I have the money for it, but I need to find the time and the right people. It's a goal to have my songs professionally mixed and produced before I join that big recording studio in the sky someday. 🤣😂 Beyond the personal vanity of that goal, I have no illusions about making it big. But, I do hope that someone of note would hear one of my songs, record it, and release it. If not, it's no big deal. All of my bucket list items were already checked off numerous times. I feel blessed. :D
You have a very good workflow of writing and recording. Your songs all sound very polished. Good work, man!
Cheers,
Joseph
Probably a lot of studios in your area , it's not much $75.00 a hour recording with engineer , Session players $150.00 per song . Now producers thats a different story , they can range from all kinds of prices . You probably want a young producer if you plan on pitching it , To me the song would fit the Sync category ,
@Elvis Nash — Thanks, man! I may seek a bulk, package deal for 15 songs recorded and mixed over a month. I'm sure that kind of thing happens all the time. I'm not sure what 'Sync' is. My preferred style is pop-rock 80s genre. :D
Cheers,
Joseph
Quote from: icystorm on Oct 13, 2025, 04:56 PM@Elvis Nash — Thanks, man! I may seek a bulk, package deal for 15 songs recorded and mixed over a month. I'm sure that kind of thing happens all the time. I'm not sure what 'Sync' is. My preferred style is pop-rock 80s genre. :D
Cheers,
Joseph
'Sync is for movies TV ect . Cuts for artists are a different deal, Ya got be careful not to sounded dated to the 80ties , Why I suggest a young producer thats hip to 2025 sounds . Now Rick Beato goes over hits , Some do adhere to a 80ties vibe in parts . But they also drift to what's happening in well hell it's almost 2026 . Find some kid to produce ya
@Elvis Nash — Solid advice! Yeah, time rolls on. We'll be in the 2030s before we know it. Thanks, man!
Quote from: icystorm on Oct 14, 2025, 01:28 PM@Elvis Nash — Solid advice! Yeah, time rolls on. We'll be in the 2030s before we know it. Thanks, man!
Why I write 16 hours a day with cat naps , Now a young producer might drive ya crazy , But its compromise like marriage
Quote from: Elvis Nash on Oct 15, 2025, 08:00 AMWhy I write 16 hours a day with cat naps , Now a young producer might drive ya crazy , But its compromise like marriage
@Elvis Nash — Great advice, man! I look forward to hearing your next song soon. 8)
Cheers,
Joseph
Forty Pounds Of Ghost , about 4 months of depression and suicide thoughts and bouncing back . I lost 40 lbs , Well on the bright side maybe it's better to be skinny lol.
Tracks are being made now in Nashville . You would really think at 71 the rain would stop.
It would take me 40 years to write a book ,My grammar skills are like a 6 -year old sometimes lol
Quote from: Elvis Nash on Oct 22, 2025, 03:49 PMTracks are being made now in Nashville
That's great, Elvis. Post one when they're ready. I'll be good to hear a new track from you, man.
Cheers,
Joseph
What would I write about in a book ? The ragged life of 71- years on earth ?
I would rather hear about a girl who has witch craft. Country music always says girls , why I don't why , girls are 12- years old women are 30- years old.
Does Steven King have nightmares ?
Quote from: Elvis NashWhat would I write about in a book ? The ragged life of 71- years on earth ?
Keep your spirits up, stay positive, and keep writing and recording your songs, man! We only have today. :D
Cheers,
Joseph
Quote from: Elvis Nash on Oct 23, 2025, 02:49 PMWhat would I write about in a book ? The ragged life of 71- years on earth ?
I would rather hear about a girl who has witch craft. Country music always says girls , why I don't why , girls are 12- years old women are 30- years old.
Does Steven King have nightmares ?
Steven King's nightmares are ideas. He hopes to have them every night. That would be my wild guess.
Country music leans towards a general style that tries to patronize women by addressing them with youthful recognition, addresses fathers as daddy, and mothers as mama. It's always been that way and to run it by a shrink would be to no doubt witness him group the entire genre in a unrewarding psychosis (because that's what shrinks do), and then ask for a hefty fee to remedy it. And, yes,
girls are considered to be underage women so the use of the noun can be uncomfortable outside the genre.
Regarding the writing of a book, my 70 years would be titled "Man...F..k!", but I got that from a comedian years ago who already has claim on it.
The real intrigue you bring to this thread inquires about sorceresses satisfying their biological urges, or maybe asks if they have them. I know a few women who I have no doubt are quite qualified in broomstick aerodynamics, but the mental image of them enjoying pleasures of the flesh (eating it or mating with it) just can't be conjured up on this short notice. I'll give it some thought and get back to you.
Quote from: idunno on Oct 23, 2025, 07:52 PMQuote from: Elvis Nash on Oct 23, 2025, 02:49 PMWhat would I write about in a book ? The ragged life of 71- years on earth ?
I would rather hear about a girl who has witch craft. Country music always says girls , why I don't why , girls are 12- years old women are 30- years old.
Does Steven King have nightmares ?
Steven King's nightmares are ideas. He hopes to have them every night. That would be my wild guess.
Country music leans towards a general style that tries to patronize women by addressing them with youthful recognition, addresses fathers as daddy, and mothers as mama. It's always been that way and to run it by a shrink would be to no doubt witness him group the entire genre in a unrewarding psychosis (because that's what shrinks do), and then ask for a hefty fee to remedy it. And, yes, girls are considered to be underage women so the use of the noun can be uncomfortable outside the genre.
Regarding the writing of a book, my 70 years would be titled "Man...F..k!", but I got that from a comedian years ago who already has claim on it.
The real intrigue you bring to this thread inquires about sorceresses satisfying their biological urges, or maybe asks if they have them. I know a few women who I have no doubt are quite qualified in broomstick aerodynamics, but the mental image of them enjoying pleasures of the flesh (eating it or mating with it) just can't be conjured up on this short notice. I'll give it some thought and get back to you.
Shrinks really don't know anything , They give you pills to numb you out and pray to Frued ( Who by the way had a nasty coke habit) that the problems go away , in fact your kinda on your own . The sorceress mentioned reminds me of my 2nd wife , she was the devil . Which I wrote, "I Married Satans Sister. When I call 988 I end up giving the counselor therapy .
@Elvis Nash — Wow! That's some story, man! I'm fortunate to have never smoked, drank liquor, taken drugs, vaped, or suffered from any serious long-term illness or any form of mental illness. Some of that seems to be part of life in the entertainment business.
For clarity about my forthcoming novel and supporting songs:
The story is about an omnipotent enchantress name Omega. She is immensely old and is now immortal, but she appears on Earth as a sophisticated and very wealthy woman around age 68. She was granted immortality by the Greek Goddess of Strife and Discord, Eris. Through Eris, Omega has the power of omnipotence. She can do anything with her mind. She uses her power to carry out acts of vengeance against wicked people in the world on behalf of very wealthy clients who pay Omega huge fortunes to destroy the lives of their enemies who wronged them in the past.
The Greek Goddess of Strife and Discord, Eris, is also immensely old — older than the days of the ancient Greek Gods and Goddesses.
The sweetheart of the story is Hedra. Hedra is a 31-year old immortal, omnipotent woman who became the apprentice of Omega (and Eris). And, yes, she's a force of terror for the wicked in the world. Nothing can hurt her, and she can do anything. Imagine a Jedi Knight with zero vulnerabilities.
The song
Does a Sorceress Make Love is composed from the point of view of a mortal man who falls under the spell of Hedra and believes he is in love with her. She is using him for various purposes and as a tool for carrying out acts of vengeance on behalf of Omega's wealthy clients. But, Hedra does not love him or anyone. Yet, he is in love with her and he wants her.
Context of a couple of songs:
"She Walks in Beauty in the Night" is from the perspective of a mortal man who is captivated by Hedra. He sees her beauty and mystery, and he gets brief glimpses of her darker powers—like in the chorus, where the wicked are destroyed at her will—but overall, the song is full of his reverence and wonder. He doesn't understand what she is, just that he's drawn to her beyond reason.
"Does a Sorceress Make Love" is more emotionally direct. Another man, similarly under her spell, is questioning whether Hedra feels anything at all—if she even understands love and knows what it is. He suspects she's more than human, possibly a sorceress, but he's still deeply infatuated with her. Both songs portray men who are in love with a woman far more powerful and unknowable than they realize. So, the themes are similar, but a bit different in those nuanced ways.
A little more of Hedra's first encounter with Omega:
Hedra was once a deeply heartbroken mortal woman. She was betrayed by the man she loved most. That heartbreak was no accident— it was orchestrated by Eris, the Greek Goddess of Strife and Discord, who had her eye on Hedra for a darker purpose.
When Omega first goes to meet her, Hedra is about 25, emotionally destroyed and very depressed. She's sitting alone on a park bench near the edge of a forest on a foggy, dim morning. Nearby, she notices a small bird that's fallen from its nest. A cat is circling, ready to pounce. Hedra, who deeply loves animals, is heartbroken to witness the scene—but feels powerless to help.
Just then, Omega arrives in the eerie fog. She calmly approaches, looks at the cat, and the cat vanishes. She then picks up the terrified little bird and brings it to Hedra. Hedra is stunned—both by the disappearance of the cat and the calm power in this mysterious older woman who appeared seemingly from nowhere. Omega calmly tells her, "You have the power within you to save this little creature, my child." She places the bird in Hedra's cupped hands, then places her hand on her shoulder, and says, "Now close your eyes and imagine it whole again."
A warm glow surrounds them as both women close their eyes and focus. The bird immediately perks up and chirps, healthy once more, and Hedra releases it back into the trees where it sings a joyous song. Hedra's original sorrow turns into awe and happy astonishment. Omega watches her closely, then says, "You have many questions, Hedra, and I will answer them, if you're willing to become my pupil and allow me to teach you things far beyond your imagination."
From there, Hedra begins her transformation. Under Omega's guidance and Eris's influence, she will ultimately become a powerful, immortal enchantress. She appears mortal to others in the world, but is far from it. She is omnipotent, untouchable, and able to bring about vengeance and discord at Eris's will.
---
So, fast forward six years into the future. Hedra is now 31 and well on her way to becoming an omnipotent, immortal being like Omega and Eris.
My use of the lyric 'girl' to describe Hedra in some of my songs is innocent and innocuous. Hedra is an adult woman. It's no different than Cyndi Lauper singing "Girls Just Want to Have Fun" or the wonderful ladies in the sitcom "Golden Girls".
My sweethearts and wives (married/divorced twice) many times referred to themselves as my "girl" in a sweet way. The main point here is that none objected to the term, as it was a term of endearment. It was very innocent and not offensive or demeaning to them. Likewise, Hedra does not object to the term! Haha! In serious contrast, I would never refer to an adult woman whom I do not have a relationship or friendship with as a 'girl'. That's offensive, and I get it.
Looking forward to hearing a new song from you soon, man!
Cheers,
Joseph
Quote from: icystorm on Oct 23, 2025, 09:32 PM@Elvis Nash — Wow! That's some story, man! I'm fortunate to have never smoked, drank liquor, taken drugs, vaped, or suffered from any serious long-term illness or any form of mental illness. Some of that seems to be part of life in the entertainment business.
For clarity about my forthcoming novel and supporting songs:
The story is about an omnipotent enchantress name Omega. She is immensely old and is now immortal, but she appears on Earth as a sophisticated and very wealthy woman around age 68. She was granted immortality by the Greek Goddess of Strife and Discord, Eris. Through Eris, Omega has the power of omnipotence. She can do anything with her mind. She uses her power to carry out acts of vengeance against wicked people in the world on behalf of very wealthy clients who pay Omega huge fortunes to destroy the lives of their enemies who wronged them in the past.
The Greek Goddess of Strife and Discord, Eris, is also immensely old — older than the days of the ancient Greek Gods and Goddesses.
The sweetheart of the story is Hedra. Hedra is a 31-year old immortal, omnipotent woman who became the apprentice of Omega (and Eris). And, yes, she's a force of terror for the wicked in the world. Nothing can hurt her, and she can do anything. Imagine a Jedi Knight with zero vulnerabilities.
The song Does a Sorceress Make Love is composed from the point of view of a mortal man who falls under the spell of Hedra and believes he is in love with her. She is using him for various purposes and as a tool for carrying out acts of vengeance on behalf of Omega's wealthy clients. But, Hedra does not love him or anyone. Yet, he is in love with her and he wants her.
Context of a couple of songs:
"She Walks in Beauty in the Night" is from the perspective of a mortal man who is captivated by Hedra. He sees her beauty and mystery, and he gets brief glimpses of her darker powers—like in the chorus, where the wicked are destroyed at her will—but overall, the song is full of his reverence and wonder. He doesn't understand what she is, just that he's drawn to her beyond reason.
"Does a Sorceress Make Love" is more emotionally direct. Another man, similarly under her spell, is questioning whether Hedra feels anything at all—if she even understands love and knows what it is. He suspects she's more than human, possibly a sorceress, but he's still deeply infatuated with her. Both songs portray men who are in love with a woman far more powerful and unknowable than they realize. So, the themes are similar, but a bit different in those nuanced ways.
A little more of Hedra's first encounter with Omega:
Hedra was once a deeply heartbroken mortal woman. She was betrayed by the man she loved most. That heartbreak was no accident— it was orchestrated by Eris, the Greek Goddess of Strife and Discord, who had her eye on Hedra for a darker purpose.
When Omega first goes to meet her, Hedra is about 25, emotionally destroyed and very depressed. She's sitting alone on a park bench near the edge of a forest on a foggy, dim morning. Nearby, she notices a small bird that's fallen from its nest. A cat is circling, ready to pounce. Hedra, who deeply loves animals, is heartbroken to witness the scene—but feels powerless to help.
Just then, Omega arrives in the eerie fog. She calmly approaches, looks at the cat, and the cat vanishes. She then picks up the terrified little bird and brings it to Hedra. Hedra is stunned—both by the disappearance of the cat and the calm power in this mysterious older woman who appeared seemingly from nowhere. Omega calmly tells her, "You have the power within you to save this little creature, my child." She places the bird in Hedra's cupped hands, then places her hand on her shoulder, and says, "Now close your eyes and imagine it whole again."
A warm glow surrounds them as both women close their eyes and focus. The bird immediately perks up and chirps, healthy once more, and Hedra releases it back into the trees where it sings a joyous song. Hedra's original sorrow turns into awe and happy astonishment. Omega watches her closely, then says, "You have many questions, Hedra, and I will answer them, if you're willing to become my pupil and allow me to teach you things far beyond your imagination."
From there, Hedra begins her transformation. Under Omega's guidance and Eris's influence, she will ultimately become a powerful, immortal enchantress. She appears mortal to others in the world, but is far from it. She is omnipotent, untouchable, and able to bring about vengeance and discord at Eris's will.
---
So, fast forward six years into the future. Hedra is now 31 and well on her way to becoming an omnipotent, immortal being like Omega and Eris.
My use of the lyric 'girl' to describe Hedra in some of my songs is innocent and innocuous. Hedra is an adult woman. It's no different than Cyndi Lauper singing "Girls Just Want to Have Fun" or the wonderful ladies in the sitcom "Golden Girls".
My sweethearts and wives (married/divorced twice) many times referred to themselves as my "girl" in a sweet way. The main point here is that none objected to the term, as it was a term of endearment. It was very innocent and not offensive or demeaning to them. Likewise, Hedra does not object to the term! Haha! In serious contrast, I would never refer to an adult woman whom I do not have a relationship or friendship with as a 'girl'. That's offensive, and I get it.
Looking forward to hearing a new song from you soon, man!
Cheers,
Joseph
If your intelligent enough to write all that your good enough to write a book lol. I've made every mistake known to man and then some . This has been a fun thread .